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The LRB Podcast

Aftershock: The War on Terror – Episode 1: With Us or Against Us

The LRB Podcast

London Review of Books

Society & Culture

4.4579 Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

In the days after 9/11, George W. Bush declared a state of emergency and initiated what would become an unprecedented expansion of US power. Public debate narrowed: there were new limits on what was acceptable, and not acceptable, to say. The London Review of Books published a number of pieces that challenged this consensus, forcing its editor, Mary-Kay Wilmers, to defend the paper on national radio. This is the first episode in a six-part series. To listen to the rest of the series follow Aftershock: The War on Terror in: Apple Podcasts: https://lrb.me/wotapple Spotify: https://lrb.me/wotspotify Other podcast apps: https://lrb.me/wotlinktree Archive:Rutgers Law Review, ‘CNN Live’/CNN, ‘Good Morning America’/ABC, ‘Good Day New York’/FOX5 New York/FOX, ‘SmackDown’/USA Network/WWE, ‘Meet the Press’/NBC/NBC News Productions and ‘Broadcasting House’/BBC Radio 4/BBC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

What you're about to hear is the first episode of Aftershock, The War on Terror, a new six-part podcast from the London Review of Books.

0:11.5

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0:18.7

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0:33.8

On the morning of September the 11th at 7.59 a.m., American Airlines Flight 11 took off from Logan Airport in Boston.

0:36.2

American 11, no climate table level 3.50. 15 minutes later, air traffic control instructed the plane to increase altitude. American 11, climb maintain a level 350. Climb and then maintain altitude at 35,000 feet.

0:57.0

American 11, Boston.

1:00.0

American 1-1, the American on the frequency.

1:03.0

How do you hear me?

1:05.0

There was no response.

1:08.0

American 11, if you hear Boston Center,

1:10.0

ident please or acknowledged.

1:17.0

At 819, a flight attendant on the plane placed an air phone call to the reservations desk

1:23.9

at American Airlines.

1:24.9

The context is not answering.

1:27.4

Somebody staffed in business class.

1:29.3

And I think there's names that we can't breathe.

1:32.3

I don't know.

1:33.3

I think we'll get in high desk.

1:34.3

Which point are you all?

1:36.3

I'm number three on flight 11.

1:38.3

Five minutes later, air traffic control picked up a voice.

1:43.3

We have some planes. Let's stay quiet and you'll be okay.

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