And the So, Don't go out on it. Hi comrades thank you for joining us for the Red Nation podcast. My name is Jen Marley. Today we're going to be talking about

native horror. But before that, I just want to remind you, if you haven't yet, to please subscribe to our Patreon. Our Patreon subscribers really keep the heart of

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worth this subscription for sure. But yeah, let's get into it. We're here with

Kaye Simmons. She's a literary theorist and she specializes in Native horror. I don't know if that's how you got your start, but yeah, I'm

excited for this conversation. I know a lot of people are excited for this conversation.

I've been telling people, yeah, we going to do an episode on Native horror and

everyone's really into it because a lot of natives are into horror as we know so I wanted to ask you why do you think that is why

do you think that natives have such a unique relationship to horror and what makes

unique? What is the appeal? But before you answer that question can you introduce yourself to?

Yeah, I'm sorry. Before you answer that question, can you introduce yourself to?

I'm sorry, yeah.

Okay, I'm myself.

Hi, I'm Kaye Simmons.

I'm Oval Law Lakota from Pine Ridge.

I'm a professor of Indigenous Nation Studies at Portland State University. Howdy.

So why do natives have such an interesting relationship to horse.

So there's like two reasons, right?

So first is that a lot of our communities have,

right, these beings that, and we have this storytelling history and present you know keep

telling stories that has a lot of creepy stuff in it Like I remember this summer I was listening to some recordings by some

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