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A little over a year ago I did a micro podcast a week after.

Anthony Bourdain passed.

And it's not something I ever thought I would ever talk about and be open about.

My own mental struggles my battle with depression and.

I'm still shocked that I let it out in the world but if there was one benefit I think that one podcast.

And the subsequent one that I did with Bill Simmons and David Cho where we dealt a little bit into mental health and growth and.

Sort of reclaiming yourself has been two of our most listened to podcast and.

We have received probably more emails and messages and direct messages from those podcasts than anything we've ever done.

And I continue to get messages from people I've never met before.

That's say that you know it helped them to realize that they need to take the first step and that's acknowledged they need help.

And the second step is taking the leap of faith in talking to someone and getting professional help.

And the messages that I've been the most troubling are not from the people that I have never met before my life.

But they've been from the people in my universe and friends and colleagues that I'm very close to.

And to see their struggles and to hear their struggles has been incredibly difficult to stomach.

I don't know if it's an epidemic in the world.

I do think it's.

I don't know if epidemics the right word but my God it seems a lot of people in the culinary profession are going through some awful shit and.

I don't know what to do.

If there's one pattern in a lot of the asks is how do I get help?

And I can't tell you enough of how difficult it is to even come to that realization that you need help because in my experience and I can never speak and I never want to speak on behalf of anyone else that's going through about of depression is I found it to be just through my talks with friends that have experienced it is that depression.

The one of the first things that happens to do is just like rob you of your will to understand like that anyone want to hear anything from you.

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