ON FRIENDSHIP… With Dawn French and Vogue Williams

How To Fail With Elizabeth Day

Sony Music

Society & Culture

4.7 • 9.6K Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

I’ve always been obsessed with friendship - how it shapes us, challenges us and often goes uncelebrated. In this episode, both Dawn French and Vogue Williams get honest about the beauty and the messiness of it all. Despite being surrounded by great friends, Vogue explains why she worries she’s not the best friend back - although she’s definitely working on it. Dawn then reflects on growing up as an RAF kid. Repeated moves meant she learned early on how hard it can be to build and keep connections. She also talks about her iconic friendship with Jennifer Saunders (which did *not* start smoothly) and the people she holds closest today. My fascination with the subject runs so deep that I even wrote a whole book about it! Friendaholic: Confessions of a Friendship Addict explores why friendship matters and how it evolves over our lives. Feel free to buy a copy for you…and all your friends! Listen to Dawn French’s full episode of How to Fail here: swap.fm/l/NJDrzxLKhyi6icOrxmHT Listen to Vogue Williams’ full episode of How to Fail here: swap.fm/l/KdIrVp0y41qgun1oGjfR 🔗 LINKS + MENTIONS: Elizabeth’s Substack: https://theelizabethday.substack.com/ Join the How To Fail community: https://howtofail.supportingcast.fm/#content 💌 LOVE THIS EPISODE? Subscribe on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts Leave a 5⭐ review – it helps more people discover these stories 👋 Follow How To Fail & Elizabeth: Instagram: @howtofailpod @elizabday TikTok: @howtofailpod @elizabday Website: www.elizabethday.org Have a failure you’re trying to work through for Elizabeth to discuss? Click here to get in touch: howtofailpod.com How to Fail is an Elizabeth Day and Sony Music Entertainment Production. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email podcastadsales@sonymusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Life's been full on lately in the best possible way. I've just wrapped up a world-win national
0:05.2	tour for my latest book. And while it's been an incredible experience, it's also been kind of
0:10.2	exhausting. And honestly, I know I'm not alone and feeling like there just aren't enough
0:14.8	hours in the day. Between work, family, friends and the general chaos of being an adult,
0:20.4	even finding time to eat
0:21.8	properly can feel like a luxury. That's where Uber Eats steps in, because let's be real,
0:28.8	adulting is a lot. Uber Eats gives me one fewer thing to worry about. It's fast, easy, and means
0:35.6	you can actually enjoy a moment of calm, even if it's just
0:38.9	flopping on the sofa in peace. So next time you're feeling like you've done just enough,
0:44.0	let Uber Eats take care of the rest. When you've done enough, order some food on Uber Eats.
0:50.4	This episode is brought to you by Squarespace. Now, I know a little bit about building a website
0:56.1	because I was pretty hands on when I launched my own production company and its own website.
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1:53.2	Hello and welcome to this week's throwback How to Fail where I take a look at two past episodes
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