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Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

On Finding Our Soul's Vocation (James Hollis, PhD)

Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Elise Loehnen

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality, Self-improvement, Education

4.8 • 900 Ratings

🗓️ 12 September 2024

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

James Hollis, PhD is a Jungian analyst who is still in private practice in Washington D.C. Hollis started his career as a professor of humanities before a midlife crisis brought him to his knees—and to the Jung Institute in Zurich. The author of 19 books, Hollis is one of the best interpreters of Carl Jung’s work, making it accessible for all of us who want to understand how complexes, archetypes, synchronicities, and the shadow drive our lives. Hollis’s books are very meaningful to me—you’ll find a long list in the show notes—and the chance to interview him did not disappoint. In fact, at one point, where he describes what we do to boys as we turn them into men, I actually started to cry. Meanwhile, James Hollis still lectures—you can go to his site to find a way to see him live. The fact that he’s 84 and does not seem inclined to retire—in fact, he told me he has another book coming out next year—is a testament to how a vocation doesn’t feel like work. This is one of my favorite interviews to date. I hope you love it as much as I do. MORE FROM JAMES HOLLIS, PhD: Why Good People Do Bad Things: Understanding Our Darker Selves Finding Meaning in the Second Half of Life: How to Finally, Really Grow Up A Life of Meaning: Relocating Your Center of Spiritual Gravity The Broken Mirror: Refracted Visions of Ourselves James Hollis’s Website RELATED EPISODES: Connie Zweig, “Embracing the Shadow” Satya Doyle Byock, “Navigating Quarterlife” Terry Real, “Healing Male Depression” Niobe Way, PhD, “The Critical Need for Deep Connection” To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Elise Loonen host of Pulling the Thread.

0:03.4

Today, I'm joined by James Hollis, one of the finest Jungian analysts to live.

0:09.8

This is one of my very favorite pulling the thread conversations to date.

0:19.1

You know what that is?

0:23.6

An ice cold bed. What's different?

0:24.6

It's Budweiser.

0:27.6

Food longer for a refreshing, smooth taste.

0:34.6

Like no other.

0:36.6

Cheers to that. Budweiser, like no other.

0:38.6

Cheers to that.

0:41.6

Budweiser, like no other.

0:43.1

Please drink responsibly.

0:59.6

For the facts, visit drinkaware.com.uker. Hi, it's Elise Lunan, host of Pulling the Thread.

1:05.8

On this show, we pull apart the web in which we all live to understand who we are and why we're here.

1:11.5

Pulling the thread is about big questions, why we do what we do, how we can understand our own experiences within a larger spiritual and historical context, the ways in which we might

1:16.7

begin to understand ourselves and each other better, and what's required to heal ourselves

1:21.6

and our world.

1:22.6

I'll be joined in conversation by luminaries and wise elders, those who have laid tracks in their work and lives to help us bring meaning and understanding to a world that often feels chaotic and overwhelming.

1:34.4

My hope is that these conversations spark moments of resonance and plant tiny seeds of awareness so that we might all collectively learn and grow.

1:44.7

You eat an important word there, and that is the word grown up.

1:49.2

To be grown up is what?

1:51.2

To recognize, yes, I am accountable for what spills into the world through me.

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