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Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Creating from (False) Fundamentals (Sarah Lewis, PhD)

Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Elise Loehnen

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality, Self-improvement, Education

4.8 • 900 Ratings

🗓️ 19 September 2024

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Sarah Elizabeth Lewis has one of the most illustrious resumés of all the guests on Pulling the Thread—and I think we’re the same age. Lewis is the John L. Loeb Associate Professor of the Humanities and Associate Professor of African and African American Studies at Harvard University where she serves on the Standing Committee on American Studies and Standing Committee on Women, Gender, and Sexuality. It was at Harvard that Lewis pioneered the course Vision and Justice: The Art of Race and American Citizenship, which she continues to teach and is now part of the University’s core curriculum—as it were, Lewis is the founder of Vision & Justice, which means that she is the organizer of the landmark Vision & Justice Convening, and co-editor of the Vision & Justice Book Series, launched in partnership with Aperture. Before joining the faculty at Harvard, she held curatorial positions at The Museum of Modern Art, New York and the Tate Modern, London. She also served as a Critic at Yale University School of Art. I’m not done—in fact, I could go on and on. She’s the author of The Rise: Creativity, the Gift of Failure, and the Search for Mastery, a book on Carrie Mae Weems, and innumerable important academic papers. Today, we talk about The Rise and how it dovetails in interesting ways with her brand-new book, The Unseen Truth: When Race Changed Sight in America, which is about the insidious idea that white people are from the Caucasus, a.k.a. Caucasian—an idea that took root in the culture and helped determine the way we see race today.  MORE FROM SARAH ELIZABETH LEWIS, PhD: The Unseen Truth: When Race Changed Sight in America The Rise: Creativity, the Gift of Failure, and the Search for Mastery Carrie Mae Weems Sarah Lewis’s Website Vision & Justice Follow Sarah on Instagram To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Elise Lunan, host of Pulling the Thread. Today I'm joined by Dr. Sarah Elizabeth Lewis,

0:07.3

author of The Rise and the Just Released The Unseen Truth.

0:14.8

You know what that is? An ice cold beer. What's different?

0:21.9

It's Budweiser.

0:24.0

Brood longer for a refreshing, smooth taste.

0:30.4

Like no other.

0:33.3

Cheers to that.

0:35.5

Budweiser, like no other.

0:37.8

Please drink responsibly. For the facts, like no other. Please drink responsibly.

0:39.0

For the facts, visit drinkaware.coma.uker.uker. Hi, it's Elise Lunan, host of Pulling the Thread.

0:55.8

On this show, we pull apart the web in which we all live to understand who we are and why we're here.

1:02.4

Pulling the thread is about big questions.

1:05.1

Why we do what we do, how we can understand our own experiences within a larger spiritual and historical context, the ways in which

1:12.2

we might begin to understand ourselves and each other better, and what's required to heal

1:16.8

ourselves and our world. I'll be joined in conversation by luminaries and wise elders, those who

1:22.7

have laid tracks in their work and lives to help us bring meaning and understanding to a world

1:27.1

that often feels

1:28.3

chaotic and overwhelming. My hope is that these conversations spark moments of resonance

1:33.2

and plant tiny seeds of awareness so that we might all collectively learn and grow.

1:40.4

The Caucasus was where Prometheus had been chained to a rock and eternal punishment for having stolen fire.

1:46.0

Beauty, based on subjective categories such as lore and symmetry, became a foundational part of the evidence for Caucasian superiority.

1:55.0

And so Circassians, seemingly white, primeval and supposedly close to God's image for humankind, were cast as the most beautiful racial type.

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