On Baseball’s Hidden Resistance

Edge of Sports

Dave Zirin / The Nation

News, Sports News, Sports, History, Politics

4.8 • 616 Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2022

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

This week we talk to Robert Elias, author of two books, Baseball Rebels and Major League Rebels. Both are about hidden histories of resistance athletes in the National Pastime. There is so much interesting and useful history that is so worth checking out.

We have “Choice Words” about the Tampa Bay Rays and Pride Night at the park and the players using religion as cover for their bigotry. We also have “Just Sit Down” awards to former PGA golfer Phil Mickelson, who is leaving the tour to join up with a new Saudi golf venture and appears to have no moral compunction about it. All this and more on this week’s show!

Robert Elias

https://www.nebraskapress.unl.edu/nebraska/9781496217776/

Zirin, The Tampa Bay Rays, Pride, and the Perils of Corporate Branding

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/tampa-bay-rays-pride/

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Edge of Sports podcast. I'm Dave Ziron.
0:14.3	This week we are talking to Rob Elias.
0:17.5	If you don't know who Robert Elias is, he's the author of Major League Rebels, Baseball
0:23.0	Battles Over Workers' Rights and American Empire, and Baseball Rebels, the players, people,
0:29.4	and social movements that shook up the game and changed America. That's two books,
0:35.1	similar titles, different aspects of the history of sports, politics,
0:41.2	and the hidden histories of resistance in sports.
0:44.5	And what I want to do is try to disentangle with Rob Elias about which book is which,
0:50.5	what they're going to cover, and what we could learn from this incredible reexamination of the
0:57.0	obscured history of the national pastime.
1:00.0	Also, I've got some choice words about what's going on with Pride in Tampa Bay.
1:05.0	You might have heard the story about the five members of the Tampa Bay raid who refuse to wear the pride flag on Pride Night.
1:13.4	And I got some choice words about that.
1:16.8	Just stand up and just sit down awards and more.
1:20.6	But first, let's talk to Robert Elias.
1:27.1	So Robert Elias, thanks so much for coming on the show.
1:30.9	Thank you.
1:32.0	So we've got two books here.
1:34.5	We've got Major League Rebels and Baseball Rebels.
1:38.9	Can you describe to us, please, like, why two books, why at the same time, and what makes them different?
1:47.5	Okay, sure.
1:49.3	So I wrote this book with my co-author, Peter Dreyer,
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