Hi this is Grant Cameron and you're listening to that

uFO podcast.

Hi everyone and welcome back to that uFO podcast.

My name is Andy and this is an omnibus show. So far we have had the journalists, the

scientists, the documentary makers all having their say. now is the turn of the

experiences. Many split the uFO phenomenon into the nuts and bolts or the

physical side but the other equally as relevant side is the spiritual, the woo, the conscious side, the

close encounters, some positive, some negative, all incredibly interesting in their own right.

The first part is going to see John Ramirez up first

from his first appearance on the podcast back in 2021.

We will kick off the show, talking about cataclisms which were popular at the time especially

We hear John's own incredible experiences and thoughts as well then the Bledso's will be up next. Then we hear from

Chris Bledso, whose story is synonymous with the modern UFO law. Always worth

hearing from Chris. Then it's on to Whitley Streber, again his first appearance on the podcast, taking us through his terrifying ordeal, how it impacted and changed his entire life.

It was an emotional one too, as Whitley discussed being in touch with his late wife.

And then finally on to Terry Lovelace talking about the incident at Devil's Den,

which is a true staple of the abduction aspect of this phenomenon.

What surprised me most still to this day,

that interview with Terry, the first one,

is one of those I've had the most feedback for,

and I mean a lot of feedback with so many relating to Terry's genuine nature,

the story itself and I know Terry was genuinely overwhelmed with how many folks went and bought

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