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The Psychology Podcast

Olga Khazan || The Perks of Being a Weirdo

The Psychology Podcast

iHeartPodcasts

Science, Social Sciences

4.42K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2020

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Today it's great to have Olga Khazan on the podcast. Khazan is a staff writer for The Atlantic, covering health, gender, and science. Prior to that, she was The Atlantic's Global editor. She has also written for the Los Angeles Times, the Washington Post, Forbes, and other publications. She is a two-time recipient of the International Reporting Project's Journalism Fellowship and winner of the 2017 National Headliner Awards for Magazine Online Writing.


Topics

[02:23] The origin of Olga Khazan's weirdness

[04:02] The natural tendency of loner kids to flock together

[07:35] The state of our polarized society

[08:53] How outcasts bond over the mutual feeling of being different

[10:17] Changing social norms without changing people's attitude

[11:45] The implications of normalizing everything

[12:29] Why most people find it hard to be different

[14:10] Gender issues when upholding the norm

[16:13] The relationship between tribal instincts and farming

[18:03] Why most people tend to overgeneralize stuff

[19:34] Why American's warm more towards English speakers than non-English speakers

[21:15] Social stresses and how it is related to loneliness

[23:59] The link between adverse health outcomes and racial disparities

[25:09] Perceived versus real social treatment

[26:25] The relationship between weirdness and creativity

[28:27] How being different can help you find your true self or your true love

[35:48] How to be different

[37:06] Comfort with discomfort

[39:30] "The weirder you are the fewer and the more precious are the people who truly accept you"

[40:35] Why non-conformists desire to improve the lives of others

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the psychology podcast where we give you insights into the mind, brain, behavior, and creativity.

0:13.0

I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman,

0:15.0

and in each episode I have a conversation with a guest

0:18.0

who will stimulate your mind and give you a greater understanding

0:20.0

of yourself, others, and the world we live in.

0:23.0

Hopefully we'll also provide a glimpse into human possibility.

0:27.0

Thanks for listening and on the podcast.

0:38.0

Hazan is a staff writer for the Atlantic covering health, gender, and science. Prior to that, she was the Atlantic's global editor.

0:45.9

She has also written for the Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, Forbes, and other publications.

0:50.6

She's a two-time recipient of the International Reporting Project's Journalism Fellowship

0:55.0

and winner of the 2017 National Headliner Awards for magazine online writing.

1:01.0

Olga, I'm so giddy to talk to you today.

1:04.0

I've been weighing a while.

1:05.0

Yeah, no, it's very exciting.

1:07.0

Thanks for having me on.

1:08.0

You know, because I'm weird.

1:10.0

And I own it, and I own it.

1:12.0

And as an adult, I own it. As a child as a child it was harder you know what I was but I

1:16.2

resonated so much with your book and your story and just everything about the

1:20.1

way you wrote it I thought we could just start off maybe you could tell our

1:23.4

listeners a little bit about the origin of your own weirdness. Yeah totally so I kind of got

1:28.9

interested in this topic because I grew up in West Texas and my parents were Russian Jewish refugees.

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