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I'm Amanda Knox, and you're listening to Hard Knocks.

I'm Amanda Knox, and you're listening to Hard Knocks.

Welcome to an episode of Old School, where you get to enjoy past conversations that I've had with wonderful people.

In this episode, we speak to Chris Ballou, former frontman of presidents of the United States of America, formerly Casper Baby Pants, and currently very much himself. He continues to be an incredible

musician and artist, but in this conversation, we talk about the journey of coming into oneself,

knowing oneself, knowing oneself.

And honestly, I don't know anyone who knows himself better than Chris Ballou.

So please enjoy this conversation with my very good friend, with my husband's man crush, the one and only, Chris Ballou.

Our guest today is Chris Ballou.

If that name doesn't ring a bell, maybe this will.

I'm moving to the country, I'm going to eat a lot of peaches.

I'm moving to the country, I'm going to eat a lot of peaches.

Beaches come from a can.

I am the lead singer and songwriter for a professional rock and roll band from Seattle, Washington, called the Presidents of the United States of America.

I also make music for little kids, ages zero to six or so, and their parents as Casper Babypants?

In our social world of new parents with young children, it was this that drew the most excitement.

It's hard to find music geared towards kids that is also pleasant for adults, and Casper Babypants nails that niche.

One white duck went wandering out, looking for someone to love him in the blink of a night

from up in the sky.

Another white duck did join him.

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