How to Be Good Without Being Boring (Dessa)
Hard Knox with Amanda Knox
Knox Robinson Productions
4.6 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 12 August 2025
⏱️ 74 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | For ad-free episodes of Hard Knocks, subscribe at Amandanox.substack.com, where you'll also find access to essays, bonus episodes, and more. Enjoy. |
| 0:15.5 | I'm Amanda Knox, and you're listening to Hard Knocks. |
| 0:20.0 | Music Amanda Knox, and you're listening to Hard Knox. |
| 0:29.6 | My name is Dessa, and I'm a writer and a musician. |
| 0:34.8 | So for me, the kind of entry into performance wasn't like in school band or in choir. |
| 0:39.5 | It was afterwards, I was like a lonely, sad girl kind of vibes in high school, and I ended up joining a rap crew that toured for kind of on it off and fits and starts |
| 0:47.8 | for, you know, something like 20 years of my life. Yeah. I love that. I love how, um, |
| 0:54.1 | it's not like you were there studying music. |
| 0:56.5 | You were being like a philosophy girl and then who just happened to know how to express |
| 1:03.5 | herself in rap terms. |
| 1:06.6 | That's an interesting, you know, intersection of talents. |
| 1:11.8 | I don't know how your experience has been, like, as a creative person in the world. |
| 1:16.2 | But for me, I think I have never been an artist who's like, God, what a great day. |
| 1:22.5 | You know what I want to do? |
| 1:23.7 | Take up a guitar. |
| 1:25.6 | And in part, because I don't play guitar. |
| 1:27.5 | But even if I did, for me, I think very often, like music and art comes out of a feeling of disorientation, distress, conflict. |
| 1:36.8 | That's the reason for it. |
| 1:37.8 | If you're having a freaking awesome Wednesday, then you just Wednesday. |
| 1:41.7 | There's no need, do you know what I mean? |
| 1:43.7 | There's no need to bring out the heavy machinery to figure out what the hell is happening |
| 1:47.5 | to your human single life. |
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