Hello and welcome to the Thinking Fellows podcast.

You may notice a little bit of background noise going on here.

This is Scott Keith. I've said in last several episodes, we are in the middle of our summer.

And when it's summer at 1517, everybody travels. So it's very difficult to get Rod and Adam and I in the same place during

the months of June, July, and August. And so I've been going on some solo trips. Today I am at the

NALC Convocation. Is that way? NALC Convocation, North American Lutheran Church Convocation.

And where am I? I am in Nashville, Tennessee.

We are in a bar.

And last year when we were at the NALC

convocation, we sat down with

I'd like to say that he's a friend,

but to me he's really more than a friend.

I struggle for a category other than a dad to me.

Jim Nest again.

Hi, Jim.

Nice to see you.

It's good to see you as always.

I'm glad to sit in with you anytime.

I love it.

We also, I needed a guest host to come on with me today,

so I grabbed my friend and former student, Kevin McLean, who's now a pastor.

Indeed.

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