Okay. Let’s Talk About "Everyone" Getting Skinny
Slate Debates
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4.6 • 3K Ratings
🗓️ 6 December 2025
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
On today’s episode, host Kate Lindsay is joined by culture writer Mikala Jamison to talk about the rise in online concern about celebrities’ bodies. Mikala writes the newsletter Body Type, and her forthcoming book The Forever Project details her recovery from an eating disorder. Following the premiere of movies like Wicked: For Good, fan concern and speculation about celebrity bodies has culminated in a larger discussion about the return of “this is in.” But did “thin” really ever go away? And what is the right way, if any, to talk about it?
This podcast is produced by Vic Whitley-Berry, Daisy Rosario, and Kate Lindsay.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, I'm Kate Lindsay, and you're listening to I-C-Y-M-I-M-I, or in case you missed it, |
| 0:19.4 | Slate's podcast about internet culture. And on today's episode, |
| 0:23.3 | I am joined by culture writer Michaela Jamison. Welcome, Michaela. Thank you. Glad to be here with you. |
| 0:29.4 | So, Michaela writes the substack newsletter body type. She's also the author of the forthcoming |
| 0:34.8 | book, The Forever Project. I think I was trying to figure out where I first came across your work, and I have to imagine |
| 0:40.6 | it was Twitter, but I really got enmeshed on Substack where you write your newsletter |
| 0:47.2 | and have been sort of following ever since. |
| 0:49.2 | But as far as I see YMI is concerned, Michaela is a first-time guest on the podcast. |
| 0:54.1 | And so we must ask, Michaela, what is your first internet memory? |
| 1:04.4 | I love this question. |
| 1:06.3 | The one that comes to mind, I don't know what these things were called, but they were like little |
| 1:12.8 | pixelated or like eight-bit like dolls, like fashion dolls. |
| 1:18.7 | Yes. |
| 1:19.0 | Uh-huh. |
| 1:19.6 | Do you remember the? |
| 1:20.6 | Yes. |
| 1:21.2 | They were like Brat's dolls almost. |
| 1:23.6 | You could go on these web pages and see like hundreds and hundreds of them and different outfits, different hair colors, whatever. |
| 1:30.6 | And my girlfriends and I would print them out and put them on the cover of our notebooks and stuff. |
| 1:35.8 | I just remember that in like, I don't know, third or fourth grade. |
| 1:39.6 | Oh, printing them out is very fun. |
| 1:41.7 | It was a huge moment in my elementary or middle school, the little dollies, whatever they were called. |
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