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Slate Debates

ICYMI - Shopping on Etsy Sucks Now

Slate Debates

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News, Society & Culture

4.63K Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

On today’s episode, host Kate Lindsay is joined by senior reporter at Bloomberg Businessweek, Amanda Mull, to talk about how the enshittification of online shopping came for Etsy. The platform used to be a thoughtful reprieve from the cheap, mass-produced products on Amazon, but now it’s plagued by a number of the same problems. With cheap junk and AI allegations abound, where can the Shein and Temu-haters go to actually find what they’re shopping for?

This podcast is produced by Vic Whitley-Berry, Daisy Rosario, and Kate Lindsay.


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0:26.1

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0:27.8

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0:29.0

T's and about internet culture.

0:51.8

And today, we're welcoming back to the show, culture writer Amanda

0:56.3

Mull. Hello Amanda. Hi. Nice to be here. So good to have you on this absolutely freezing

1:02.4

day. We both just barely made it here. But Amanda is a senior reporter at Bloomberg Business Week.

1:08.5

She writes about consumer culture. Previously, she was a

1:11.2

staff writer at The Atlantic and has written some of my favorite pieces, including the HGTV

1:16.7

Occasion of America, your sweaters are garbage, it's too easy to buy stuff you don't want,

1:21.7

and online shopping has become a giant fake product machine. And those last two headlines

1:26.9

are particularly relevant to what we

1:28.4

are here to discuss today, which is why online shopping has become so fraught. But first, I want to ask you

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