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Welcome back to the post-git book. I talk to Larry Statham Beard, Steven Mead, Ohio State.

A victor over Penn State 3324. It's late. I don't know, this happens to you guys.

I went through a McDonald's drive through not the one right by the stadium after the game, but I went up to the next exit and it was like, oh, this one doesn't look too bad.

So I got in the drive through line and then it didn't take long to realize that it was very slow, but then I was trapped, right?

I was trapped. I was like, I had the people before me and behind me, and then I was between the two curves, and then you're in drive through limbo, and there's nothing you can do.

So it's almost two o'clock in the morning because I was stuck in McDonald's drive through limbo forever. So I apologize for that. Nathan, we did a lot of talking on the pregame show on Friday about

well, we think this is, it might be the game goes like this, it goes like this, but it's possible the Ohio State offense is so good that nothing else matters.

Stuff mattered, right? It wasn't like the Ohio State offense wiped everything off the board. There was actual football that mattered in the Ohio State win.

Yeah, and I thought maybe the most crucial thing here, you know, I've said all along that I think the thing that makes the kryptonite to Ohio State's Superman tendencies is not a defense that's going to come out and shut it down because I don't think that defense exists.

Maybe in Athens, Georgia, that's maybe the one place where defense will come out and just stop this offense.

I've always said that I think it's going to be the bigger peril is the offense that Ohio State can't get off the field.

Or that it stays out there enough moves the chains enough that it limits Ohio State's opportunities.

And, you know, Penn State tonight going 11 of 18 on third down, Penn State being able to move the ball pretty consistently underneath.

I thought, you know, Ryan Day is right that defense won this game because the defense came through with some really huge plays.

I think it's also true that this game probably showed still where this defense needs to grow in order for Ohio State to finish off the trajectory it's been on.

Steven, do you come away from this game feeling better about Ohio State, let's just say make the playoff better about Ohio State's chances to make the playoff worse about Ohio State's chances to make the playoff or the same.

Better, and it's because I don't know who's going to do this to this offense again because a lot of it was more about what Ohio State was and wasn't doing more than it was about Penn State, even though they did do some things.

But also, Penn State's a pretty good team and Sean Clifford's a pretty decent quarterback and this defense held up and quite frankly kept things in check and in order long enough for this offense to find itself.

So the defense scoring was a great big frickin deal, right?

To get to force the Sean Clifford fumble on the the sack by Tyree Smith and Zach Harris and meet up the quarterback, sack the quarterback, force the fumble and then cage picks it up and is a big tomato running down the field scoring that touchdown, whatever 57 or whatever it was.

What do we think of the uniforms, by the way, Steven, what was the official verdict on was all that scarlet cool or not so much?

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