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Hello and welcome to the gayest episode ever, the podcast where we discuss the LGBT

episodes of classic sitcom and sometimes O'G Girl Up.

Glenn, what sitcom are we discussing this week?

You sort of gave that away.

It's O'GURU.

What are your fond memories of this series? Well, I had completely

forgotten about it, one, because I never watched it, and two, I forgot that you ever told me

about it. But once I started watching it, like, oh, yeah, we have discussed the existence of

this Allen Ball sitcom before. We discussed it on the episode of Sybil we covered covered because he also wrote that. Right. So that's how this sort of wishes way. But this is a show that I watched back in the day. It aired when I was a senior in high school, which was like the last time I was watching everything that was on broadcast TV, but also explains why you wouldn't have watched it. I'd be a freshman in college and I had hard enough time catching up with Will & Grace. Right. And not that, yeah, I mean also. And mostly Frasier. That's better. I still tried to watch my musty TV. At that point, a lot of stuff was considered must-cTV. And I think we can all agree. A lot of it was not necessarily must-see. Although, I mean, the ratings bear this out. You didn't watch it. No one else really watched it. It was, I mean, by modern standards, it got great ratings. But by ABC standards at the time, it did not get great ratings. Are you surprised this is an ABC show? No. To me, it feels like a cross between a Fox and an NBC show. Yeah, like it is sort of like a wannabe friends in some way. It's like, what was it? What's that one show? It's not men behaving badly. That's a different show. There was another show. There was like a bunch of guys in a house and just reminded me of that. One of them I was one or two, I was another show. It was like a bunch of guys in a house.

And it just reminded me of that.

One of them I was one or two I was very attracted to.

So I should remember the name of the show.

I don't.

And it was on for maybe a season or two.

Obviously this one has a talking dog.

So that's something that sets it apart.

But like this house in New York is ridiculous. It is. So their get out is that it's in Brooklyn. Okay. Sure. Brooklyn at the time, yes. It would have made slightly more sense. This is in many ways a show that's trying to explain its existence in a way that most of the Friends clones just didn't because Friends didn't have to. Although, I mean, I guess Friends sort of does because Monica and Rachel inherit the apartment. But yeah, it doesn't really make sense. This is actually the last time this podcast is going to cover A Forgotten Joe. From here on out, we're basically, I mean, we're doing Duckman at some point. But Duck Man ran for like four seasons. It was a much bigger pop cultural thing than this was. Yeah, I was, when you first mentioned, oh, let's just do this episode this week. I was a little surprised. Is this really worthy of the last season show? But, like, no, it is. And we'll get it into why it is when we talk about the premise and everything. But, like, it's an Allen Ball sitcom, and he's an acclaimed writer. And also,

like, it is trying to do something where a gay character is core to the premise. Yep. And

he has a journey over the 11 episodes of the show that actually aired. There is a bit of a journey

which we'll talk about. And I'm not sure he holds up super well, but he was a character I related to very strongly at the time for reasons that are personal in a way that we haven't really talked about on this podcast in a while. So this is, aside from our finale, this is a time when I at least get a little personal. To talk about like, I don't know how to be gay gay men.

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