OG Therapy #162 – Heidi Swapp: Building Stronger Families & Communities
OG Therapy Podcast
Elevate Podcasting
4.8 • 760 Ratings
🗓️ 18 September 2025
⏱️ 88 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of OG Therapy, we sit down with Heidi Swapp
to catch up and dive deep into the importance of open communication. We explore why talking—especially through the hard stuff—strengthens families, friendships, and communities.
Drawing on insights from Charlie Kirk’s perspective, we highlight how conversations prevent division: when parents stop talking, families fracture; when neighbors stop talking, communities weaken. Together, we discuss why keeping the dialogue open, even when it’s uncomfortable, is essential for building connection and resilience.
We also touch on the pillars of social health—your relationship with yourself, with others, and with mentors or adults—and how mastering these skills can shift the entire trajectory of life. From navigating Alzheimer’s fears to addressing suicidal thoughts in teens, this episode is about finding common ground, sticking together, and remembering: we all need one another to thrive.
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| 0:00.0 | Do not confuse this with treatment or mental health advice or direction. |
| 0:05.5 | Nothing on this podcast is made to supplement or supersede the relationship and direction of your mental health caretakers. |
| 0:12.6 | Although David Koslowski is a licensed marriage and family therapist, he is not functioning as a certified mental health professional in this environment. |
| 0:21.2 | And same applies to any professional who may appear on the OG Therapy podcast. |
| 0:26.7 | Welcome to the OG Therapy. |
| 0:29.0 | Here, everybody, welcome to another episode of OG Therapy, |
| 0:32.3 | but this episode is very special. |
| 0:36.2 | It's much important to me |
| 0:38.3 | because I have the |
| 0:40.7 | 00G, the godmother of this podcast. |
| 0:45.4 | That's right. |
| 0:46.2 | Welcome back. |
| 0:47.1 | Welcome back. |
| 0:50.2 | Told us going to sing a cheesy old song for you. |
| 0:52.8 | Heidi Swap is in his house. Let's go. This is like legit. You know what? It's not too shabby. It's not too shabby. This is a, it's a little step. It's like 27 step flights up. Yes. Like my marriage and my wife, it's something I definitely don't deserve. But hey, it wins a win. A win is a win. As being an adopted, abandoned child, take anything that can get. I don't care how I got there. I'm not the smartest guy in the room, but I know the smartest guy in the room. And he doesn't hate me. So that's my goal. You know what? I'm sure that |
| 1:27.5 | you helped. He's helped everybody. So everyone owes David something. And so that's how he gets |
| 1:34.6 | what he wants. Well, you can pay me in pokey bowls and just calling some people and say, hey, |
| 1:40.1 | you know, follow what this guy's doing. You know, pay attention what's going on. And it's really excited for me because Heidi, we've had like text message back and forth and, you know follow what this guys are doing you know pay attention what's going on and it's really excited for me because Heidi we've had like text message back and forth and you know a little bit about what I've been up to the past few years and I know a little bit about what you've been up to this past few years so I'm really looking forward to just start off by jumping into where's Heidi then okay like I know I know that your father's know you've been and know people that |
| 2:01.3 | will be watching this |
| 2:02.2 | probably already have |
| 2:03.3 | a lot of knowledge |
| 2:03.9 | and information about what you, what you're doing right now and how the past few years been. But there's other people that don't know. So I really want to just start off with talk to me about what's going on your life. And, you know, it just so happens that those you guys who are watching this on YouTube, I'm wearing a shirt that is, I don't like to play fair. So I knew when Heidi was coming here today, I'm like, what could I wear that could cause her to be like, dang it, now I have to be vulnerable. So if you ever listen to any of our old Light the Fight podcast episodes, it was always like part like, I'm so glad I could be a part of this podcast and help. And I hate you, David, for making me the example of what other people should or shouldn't do sometimes. So Heidi was always our, like, she would go out into the real world and then she would have problems and come back and report them. So it was just like kind of live therapy. She's the reason why we have that disclaimer. I'm not your therapist on this podcast. But it was really cool because so many people were like, yeah, what she just said. Like so you were just like the voice that people would I always call you, call you our, our, our, our shame correspondent. The person would go out in the world and be like here's |
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