Good morning. Welcome to Axios today. It's August 4th and we've made it to Wednesday. I'm Nila Bhudu.

Here's what you need to know today. Biden says Cuomo needs to go. Plus, why we can't

just blame social media for misinformation. But first, today's one big thing. More tragedy for

the January 6th First Responders.

Four officers who responded to the Capitol insurrection on January 6th have now died by

suicide. The news of the most recent two deaths came this week. Officer Gunther Hashita,

Officer Kyle DeFretag, Officer Howie Liebengood, and Officer Jeffrey Smith were among those who

fought to defend the Capitol that day. We've learned from last month's testimony on the hill from

a number of officers that the mental health repercussions of January 6th have been substantial for many.

Steve Hoff is an active duty law enforcement officer and chief operating officer first

help that's an organization dedicated to the support of first responders suffering from post

traumatic stress and other mental health issues. Steve, thank you for taking the time to speak with

us. Thank you for having me. I wanted to play some testimony from one of the January 6th police

officers. This is US Capitol Police Sergeant Eccolino. Good now. What we were suggested that they

was like something from a medieval battle. We fought hand-to-hand inch by inch to prevent an invasion

of the Capitol by a violent mob intent on subverting our democratic process.

Is the idea of hand-to-hand combat that seems different to me than a police officer's normal line of

work? I would definitely agree with that. They had to deal with things that the majority of

law enforcement officers would never deal with in a lifetime of being a career officer.

The terminology of hand-to-hand combat is not normally associated with anything that we deal with

in a law enforcement profession or spectrum. That usually seems to suggest a much higher

type of conflict. Do you think the stigma around getting help for mental health has changed

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