People say when you have kids, you don't know the meaning of love until you have kids.

I didn't know the meaning of fear until I had kids.

I think most of the reasons that people struggle in life is because they're not taught how to live it.

We've got a good thing going, right? We're in love. It's good. We've got a

couple kids. But there's a huge difference between everything that you just said and this,

which is all of those things, me and you, against that thing out there.

What's up? This is John and welcome to Off the Record.

This is an additional drop for the Dr. John Deloney show where I bring in folks from a variety of different backgrounds, experiences, people that I think are cool,

people that I know I disagree with, people that I know are going to challenge me. And I bring him in for people that I just love. And we sit down and have a great conversation. Today, I'm

super hyped. This is once a long time coming and this is I brought him on as a response to

one of the most common conversations people ask me to talk about and that is relationships and

technology technology and kids technology and interrupting adult relationships. I brought in. He's known to the world as the

quote unquote healthy gamer. He's known as Dr. K. His name is Alec Kenogia. He is awesome. I'll call him

Dr. K for the rest. That's how he goes. That's how he introduced himself. He is the best. He's a

super kind guy, very relatable. And in this episode, he nailed me to the wall.

He's a psychiatrist.

He's a still practices.

But he also has written great books and talks at length on tons of different media platforms

about the dangers of technology

and the good stuff about technology

and how to integrate those things into a healthy home.

So an awesome conversation.

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