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It goes without saying, you're listening to Goes Without Saying with Seffy and Wing.

I'm Seffi.

And I'm Weing.

And this is an episode of Off the Record.

It's actually quite a long episode of Off the Record.

But because we go in, in, in.

We really take our time with these questions.

We speak about Taylor Swift, Midnights. We talk about,

which we actually haven't heard yet, it's not out yet. We talk about how to admit when you're wrong

and friendship and relationships and all of that stuff. We talk about potatoes. We talk about a load of shit.

It's basically a classic episode of Off the Record.

And if you like Sethian Wing, which I hope you do because you're listening, you'll like this.

So, enjoy.

Beautiful.

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