Hello podcast fans, I'm Bradley Simpson. When I think about the stories that stayed with me,

one that immediately comes to mind is Ratatooie. A talented route who just wants to cook, and honestly,

I was glued to my screen straight away. And now I'm hooked on FX's The Bear on Disney Plus.

I love everything about it. I love the styling, the tension, the drama. It's the best thing I've

watched in ages. Only the greatest stories stay with you for a lifetime.

And honestly, it's true.

So, what will be your next great story on Disney Plus?

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For those of you who listened to the early episodes of Deviant when we were diving,

when the show launched when we were diving into the Israel Keys case, you may recall we had a conversation with a woman by the name of Andrea Dunlop, who is the host producer behind the podcast.

Nobody should believe me.

Which was a fascinating dive into Munchausen by proxy and a very intimately and passionately told story and she is an amazing storyteller.

She is.

And, you know, before doing a podcast, she's a writer.

So she has a new book coming out and it is called The Mother Next Door,

Medicine, Deception and Munchausen by proxy. And she and her co-author, Mike Weber,

um, dive into this, this, this phenomenon, which I think a lot of people don't understand,

don't have a thorough and

comprehensive knowledge of. So they get into all of that in the book, and we talked about that

in this enlightening conversation. So here it is my chat with Andrea Dunlop. I've found your show, for those of you who are not familiar.

Andrea is a writer, producer, journalist, host of the show,

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