OFF AIR... EXTRA
Off Air with Jane & Fi
The Times
4.6 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 11 July 2025
⏱️ 15 minutes
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Summary
Welcome back to another Friday special. This week's bonus episode features an interview with James Coney, news projects editor at The Sunday Times. The interview was originally broadcast on our Times Radio afternoon show (2–4 pm, Monday to Thursday).
Earlier this week, Keir Starmer faced a rebellion from his backbenchers over support for children with special educational needs. Ministers said they wouldn't rule out ending the legal obligation for councils to provide that support.
We spoke to James about what this could mean for his family. His son, Charlie, requires several different forms of care and assistance.
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Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Friday, everybody. |
| 0:10.0 | If you're listening in the UK across our great nations, it's blisteringly hot, isn't it? |
| 0:15.6 | So I hope you've got your feet in something cold. |
| 0:18.2 | I hope you've enjoyed our podcasts this week. On Fridays, we try and bung |
| 0:22.7 | something in that we have done on the live program, that's 2-12-4 Monday to Thursday here on Times |
| 0:27.8 | Radio, that we think might really tickle your ears. And I think this interview does more than |
| 0:32.7 | tickle your ears. It gives you something to really think about. It is about special educational needs provision, |
| 0:39.8 | something which families who are caught in the thick of needing to understand that will feel |
| 0:45.7 | bewildered, bemused, angered, frustrated, so many different emotions. There's a big political |
| 0:50.9 | discussion about the future of that provision in this country. |
| 0:54.9 | And one of our colleagues, James Coney, has put on several different hats to do this interview with us |
| 1:00.9 | because his family have personal experience of S-E-N-D, |
| 1:05.1 | and he also really understands the politics of it. |
| 1:08.5 | Give your ears a wiggle, we hope you get something from it. |
| 1:11.2 | Kier Stama is facing his second backbench rebellion in two weeks, this time over support for |
| 1:16.5 | school children with special educational needs. Ministers aren't ruling out ending the legal |
| 1:21.3 | obligation for councils to provide that support as they plan to reform what they say is a broken |
| 1:27.2 | system. The Times reports today that |
| 1:29.8 | the plan really could become welfare mark two with dozens of MPs prepared to rebel. Well, let's bring in |
| 1:35.9 | the Sunday Times Special Projects editor James Coney, who has first-hand experience of this issue. His son, |
| 1:42.6 | Charlie, needs several different forms of care and help and education. |
| 1:47.0 | And as any family living with a disability knows, |
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