Management and leadership are not the same thing.

Management is done with power and authority,

compelling others to do what we need them to do when we need them to do it. Leadership on the other hand always

involves voluntary compliance. It always involves people eagerly following the leader. people is often done to us. It is mandatory. People show up and say you will learn this

and there will be a test. That's different than learning. Learning is a process

we choose to go through.

Learning needs to happen more and more.

There are more learning opportunities than ever before.

And yet, too many people are hung up on the education

industrial complex and some of them are about to go to jail.

Hey it's Abri Lermanes, and this is a special archive episode of A Kimboo.

We haven't done one of our live

Q&A podcasts in over a year, so I thought it was time to do it again.

Here it is from March 2019, a conversation about learning,

about education, about the college admission scandal, about the false sorting for meritocracy,

and most of all about how each of us, whether we are students and where're students our whole lives, or parents can make a difference

in how we choose to level up.

Let's go to the tape.

Hey it's Seth, thank you for checking this out.

41 years ago, two things happened to me that I still remember as if they were yesterday.

The first thing that happened was... still remember as if they were yesterday.

The first thing that happened was I applied to Brown University early decision.

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