OB253: Expect the ILS, Cleared for the RNAV
Opposing Bases: Air Traffic Talk
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4.8 • 811 Ratings
🗓️ 7 November 2022
⏱️ 69 minutes
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Summary
Episode 253 Show Notes
Topic of the show: On this week’s show, we will discuss some of the intricacies of filing an IFR flight plan to an airport without an instrument approach procedure. What approach options exist? Do you need an alternate airport? And when you depart, what happens on the controller side of things when issuing your clearance? We also discuss checkrides, atypical phraseology, and more of your awesome aviation feedback!
Timely Feedback:
- 1. Patron SC sent follow up to last week’s episode topic.
- 2. Towers without FDIO can sometimes give you VFR codes.
Feedback
- Patron WM sent in a check ride story.
- Patron AD sent an audio question about phraseology he had never heard.
- Patron JM wants to know if they can change to a visual approach after starting an RNAV?
Mentioned: FOD Kills (links courtesy of SGAC Patron RB, thank you!)
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Why? Just do that in the first place. Let's just forego the whole back and forth of Clear for the Visual. That is not a requirement for you to cancel. You don't have to be on an approach to cancel. If you're going to cancel, just cancel. Hey, I have to fill in sight. We're going to cancel. Roger that. Cancellation received. Bye-bye. You're done. He's done with you. Gone. 1,200 V-tag. Bye-bye. |
| 0:23.0 | See you later. I don't know you anymore. |
| 0:25.4 | Ready. |
| 0:30.1 | This is Opposing Bases Air Traffic Talk. Your host, Romeo Hotel and Alpha Golf have a combined 40 years of aviation experience as pilots and air traffic controllers. |
| 0:45.6 | They answer your questions and share their opinions about flying and air traffic control. |
| 0:50.7 | This show is not official guidance and should not be used as a replacement for your instructor, |
| 0:55.7 | your pilot examiner, the endless books of regulations, your favorite comedian, your neighbor, |
| 1:01.3 | your spouse, or your cat. |
| 1:03.1 | November 628 Charlie Delft, the Squawk 1-200, frequency of change approved. |
| 1:07.3 | The audio will be available on live ATC. |
| 1:09.6 | Good day. |
| 1:10.5 | November 643, Julie, 28, Mike, third visual, truck. One way, two, three left, live ATC. Good day. November 643, too late, Mike, third visual pressure. |
| 1:13.0 | One way two three left. Conak Tower. |
| 1:14.8 | November 3-222 Yankee, area of heavy to extreme precipitation, |
| 1:19.7 | 10 o'clock, to one o'clock, one five miles, seven miles. |
| 1:23.1 | 3047 Charlie, try a departure, river contact, climb and maintain. |
| 1:27.2 | November 747 Sierra Lima, reduce speed to 1-80, your overtaking traffic ahead on final. |
| 1:33.4 | Skyhawk 7-7th angle, IFR cancellation received, block BIRFAR, frequency change, approved. |
| 1:38.1 | Sierra 720-TRAF, flattened 190 vectors for the visual approach runway, 23-11. |
| 1:43.6 | 3-11. |
| 1:43.9 | Inter-Triad Class Charlie's Surface Area from the east. |
| 1:46.3 | Maintiffon. |
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