OB203: Unappreciated ATC Practices

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4.8 • 811 Ratings

🗓️ 15 November 2021

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Episode 203 Show Notes

Topic of the show: On this week’s episode, we discuss a pilot’s lengthy flight up and down the west side of the United States where they experienced several different air traffic control facilities’ less than desirable practices like slam dunk visual approaches, poorly setup ILS approach clearances, and center reroutes. AG and RH will add their perspective and share some insights that may help you the next time you travel outside your normal local area.

Timely Feedback:

1. Delta Romeo shares his Army flight training experience.
2. PATRON Golf Kilo shared an inspiring story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc1SzgGhMKc
3. Whiskey Oscar sent a brief summary of the Cirrus de-icing system. https://wikiwings.com/heres-a-summary-of-cirrus-aircraft-tks-de-icing-systems/

Feedback

PATRON Whiskey Oscar sent audio about contact approaches.
Echo Yankee sent in audio feedback about this video: https://youtu.be/ZsSJqPdMpd4 (25:30 into the video for the audio described).
PayPal contributor Delta Charlie asks about VFR round robin flights and informing ATC.
Romeo Tango asks about filing multiple flight plans OR round robin flight plans.
Alpha Sierra asks if we watch VFR tags for flying ability prior to providing flight following.

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0:00.0	I mean, I feel like true no man's land is just a little above that in the 20s.
0:07.3	The mid-20s, no one's there except Pilates and a king here.
0:13.3	You'll get beat up by all the turbulence and such.
0:17.4	Yeah, you're right in the weather.
0:19.4	Yeah, 25,000 was the reason that they made jets like
0:23.3	we got to get out of this weather we got to get out this is terrible ready this is opposing bases air traffic talk your host This is Opposing Bases Air Traffic Talk. Your host, Romeo Hotel and Alpha Golf have a combined
0:44.1	40 years of aviation experience as pilots and air traffic controllers. They answer your questions
0:50.5	and share their opinions about flying and air traffic control. This show is not official
0:55.6	guidance and should not be used as a replacement for your instructor, your pilot examiner, the
1:01.0	endless books of regulations, your favorite comedian, your neighbor, your spouse, or your cat.
1:06.7	November 628 Charlie Delta, the Squawk 1-200, frequency change approved. The audio will be available on live ATC. Good day. November 628 Charlie dealt the squawk 1-200 frequency change approved the audio will be available on live ATC good day
1:13.8	November 643 too late Mike third visual approach runway 23 left Conak Tower November 322 to
1:20.5	Yankee area of heavy to extreme precipitation 10 o'clock to 1 o'clock 15 miles miles, 70 miles in 90. 3047 Charlie, Trial departure, let our contact, climb and maintain 8.
1:31.3	November 747, Sierra Lema, reduce speed to 180, your overtaking traffic ahead on final.
1:37.3	Skyhawk 770's angle, IFR can't place to receive,
1:39.3	block BFR, frequency change approved.
1:41.3	Sierra 720 Fox Cronal for flattened 19090 vectors for the visual approach runway, 23-11.
1:47.5	Entertriad class Charlie's surface area from the east.
1:50.0	Charlie Fox Golf, Fox Trite Alpha, this is Triad Approach on guard.
1:54.7	You are being intercepted.
1:56.4	The border is still closed, say intentions.
1:59.6	Please welcome your favorite controllers, Alpha Golf and Romeo Hotel.
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