OB160: Departing VFR vs. IFR

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4.8 • 811 Ratings

🗓️ 18 January 2021

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Episode 160 Show Notes

Topic of the show: Your two favorite air traffic controllers discuss the difference between departing a non-towered airport VFR in VMC looking to pick up your IFR clearance in the air versus an IFR departure with a clearance issued on the ground. Do you know the difference in procedures?

Timely Feedback:

1. PATRON Sierra Bravo shares his thoughts on our ODP episode.
2. PATRON Bravo Hotel shared a link to some helpful, big picture MVA maps (not for navigation).

Feedback

Delta Sierra asks about climbing VFR on an IFR flight plan.
PATRON Juliet Papa shares audio about circling and low weather.
Sierra Bravo shares two video links to highlight runway directional lights and beacons:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qxydd7k6047qm61/RW28SnowyNorth.mov?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7byzjosibe6zu3l/RW10SnowyNorth.mov?dl=0

Foxtrot Charlie shares another reason to use the LOC for departure.
PATRON Mike Echo Hotel shares her flight following story with a busy controller.
Mike Zulu shares thoughts on the show and offers some advice to RH.
PATRON Alpha Bravo Mike shared a circling in low weather video. See link below.
Kilo Whiskey compliments our superior pronunciation skills.

Mentioned on today’s show: MVA Maps: https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/flight_info/aeronav/digital_products/mva_mia/mva/

Plane Tales about Israel flight: http://airlinepilotguy.com/operation-yonatan/

PATRON ABM missed on a circling approach video: https://youtu.be/df1esUDkvQA

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0:00.0	Ready.
0:08.9	This is Opposing Bases Air Traffic Talk.
0:12.2	Your host, Romeo Hotel and Alpha Golf have a combined 40 years of aviation experience as pilots and air traffic controllers.
0:20.5	They answer your questions and share their opinions about flying and air traffic control.
0:25.6	This show is not official guidance and should not be used as a replacement for your instructor,
0:30.6	your pilot examiner, the endless books of regulations, your favorite comedian, your neighbor, your spouse, for your cat.
0:37.9	November 628, Charlie Dell, the squawk 1-200, frequency of change approved.
0:42.1	The audio will be available on live ATC. Good day.
0:45.3	November 643, too late, Mike.
0:47.2	Third visual pressure, runway, 23 left, Connick Tower.
0:49.7	November 3-22-2 Yankee, area of heavy to extreme precipitation to the clock to one o'clock one
0:56.5	five miles seven Charlie try a departure letter contact climate maintain
1:02.0	November 747 Sierra Lehmra reduce speed to 180 your overtaking traffic ahead on final
1:08.0	Skyhawk 7 7 7th angle IFRQA incalance received,
1:11.0	walk via far, frequency change, approved.
1:12.9	Sierra 720 Fox Tron Alpha flattened 190 vectors for the visual approach runway, 2 311.
1:18.5	Enter Triad Class Charlie's surface area from the east.
1:21.1	Maintained Specialty Foxx Golf, Triad Alpha, this is Triad Approach on guard.
1:25.9	You are being intercepted.
1:27.6	The border is still closed, say intentions.
1:30.8	Please welcome your trip.
1:32.0	Favorite controllers, Alpha Golf and Romeo Hotel.
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