OA397: Explaining Bostock v. Clayton County
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🗓️ 23 June 2020
⏱️ 72 minutes
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Summary
This episode breaks down exactly what happened in the Supreme Court's surprising 6-3 decision in Bostock v. Clayton County holding that discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and/or gender identity is discrimination "because of sex" under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. It's a great decision, we tell you why, and we give you some additional insights about Neil Gorsuch.
We begin by diving into the case! We tell you exactly what it does (and doesn't) mean, figure out why this case took so long to get to a decision, and how it's exactly the ruling we thought might have been possible ever since the 7th Circuit's en banc decision in Hively v. Ivy Tech that we discussed way back in Episode 60.
In figuring that out, we discuss the narrow differences between "texualism" and "originalism," even though this show tends to lump them together.
As part of the analysis, we take a look into Neil Gorsuch's voting patterns to see if he's a secret liberal. Hint: he isn't.
After all that, it's time for the #T3BE answer on Constitutional law. Can the university fire a professor for her political views? Listen and find out!
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Show Notes & Links
- Go ahead and read the Court's decision in Bostock v. Clayton County for yourself if you haven't yet.
- We discussed the 7th Circuit's en banc decision in Hively v. Ivy Tech back in Episode 60, with specific emphasis on the Flaum & Ripple concurrence. We also discussed R.G. & G.R. Harris Funeral Homes in Episode 167.
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| 0:00.0 | He's not even a lawyer and he's kicking your ass. |
| 0:19.0 | No! Bad lawyer! I need a loophole! |
| 0:25.0 | He's not a judge, Judy, an executioner! He is! |
| 0:33.0 | I'm sorry, but my mother always said if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. |
| 0:39.0 | Will that hold up in court? No, I've tried it before. |
| 0:46.0 | Stop. Ask a question a lawyer would ask, please. I am a lawyer. |
| 0:55.0 | Welcome to Opening Arguments, the podcast that pairs an inquisitive interviewer with a real-life lawyer. |
| 1:00.0 | This podcast is sponsored by the Law Offices of P. Amtrator as LLC for entertainment purposes, |
| 1:05.0 | is not intended as legal advice and does not form an attorney-client relationship. |
| 1:09.0 | Don't take legal advice from a podcast. |
| 1:13.0 | Hello and welcome to Opening Arguments, this is episode 397. |
| 1:21.0 | We're closing it on 400. Oh, that probably means newly triplets. |
| 1:25.0 | Yeah, that's right. Plus, I don't know, do we win something for getting to 400? |
| 1:30.0 | I sure hope so, I feel like I should win something in Oscar. |
| 1:34.0 | Maybe? I don't know. How's it going, Andrew? |
| 1:37.0 | It's going fantastic, Thomas. How are you? |
| 1:40.0 | Going great. Lots going on in the world, of course. |
| 1:45.0 | I don't think there will be any legal opportunity to ever talk about Matt Gaetz's surprise adopted son that just happened. |
| 1:57.0 | I don't know if you saw that as it would be Thursday. |
| 2:01.0 | Yeah, not right now for when you're listening. But anyway, that's nuts. |
| 2:06.0 | I just happened to see that can't stop thinking about it. |
| 2:10.0 | Anyway, maybe there will be some sort of law tie and we could do someday. |
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