OA131: Andrew^2 (w/guest Andrew Seidel)

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🗓️ 19 December 2017

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Today's episode welcomes back one of our favorite guests -- and the show's only three-time guest, Andrew Seidel, attorney with the Freedom From Religion Foundation. Together, Andrew, Andrew, and Thomas tackle a bunch of church and state separation issues. First, they break down Andrew Seidel's recent success in convincing the Senate Judiciary Committee to reject their most unqualified judges, Jeff Mateer and Brett Talley. Then, the gang does a deep dive into the oral arguments in the Masterpiece Cakeshop hate-bakery case. After that, Andrew Seidel gives us his take on a new Christian right-wing lobbying group co-founded by Gordon Klingenschmitt. Finally, we end with the answer to Thomas (and Andrew!) Take The Bar Exam question #54 about witness statements and overlapping privilege. Don't forget to following our Twitter feed (@Openargs) and like our Facebook Page so that you too can play along with #TTTBE! Recent Appearances Andrew was just a guest on Episode 75 of The Science Enthusiast podcast and Episode 229 of the Atheist Nomads podcast. Give 'em a listen! Show Notes & Links

We broke down the Masterpiece Cakeshop case in Episode 105, and you can follow along with the guys by reading the transcript of the Masterpiece Cakeshop oral argument before the Supreme Court!
If you love Andrew Seidel, you might want to go back to his previous appearances on the show, Episode 82 (on Trinity Lutheran), Episode 85 (which was originally a Patreon-only exclusive), and Episode 111.
And if that's still not enough Andrew for you, you can catch up on Andrew Seidel's most recent writings: his op-ed on Masterpiece Cakeshop, which you can read here; his blog post on right-wing legal organizations; and, of course, his FFRF press release celebrating the victory in keeping Mateer and Talley off the federal bench.
Find out all about Go Klings's latest right-wing "legal" group here.
Finally, consider supporting the Freedom From Religion Foundation.

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0:00.0	I declare bankruptcy!
0:20.0	I congratulate you on your imagination, but this is a court of space law not a theater.
0:26.0	Thanks Mendis, Insendium, Gloria, Calpum etc. etc. Memo, Bis, Punitor, Debra, Cutum.
0:36.0	It's all there, black and white, clear as crystal.
0:42.0	How is this a fair trial? Our lawyer is a morty.
0:46.0	It's not fair, you have no rights and he's not a lawyer. We just keep him here because he's fun.
0:50.0	Look at him go.
0:55.0	Welcome to Opening Arguments, the podcast that pairs an inquisitive interviewer with a real-life lawyer.
1:00.0	This podcast is sponsored by the Law Offices of P. Andrew Torres, LLC for Entertainment purposes,
1:05.0	is not intended as legal advice and does not form an attorney-client relationship.
1:09.0	Don't take legal advice from a podcast.
1:13.0	Hello and welcome to Opening Arguments. This is episode 131. I'm your host, Thomas Smith.
1:22.0	That over there is your other host, Andrew Sidel. How are you doing? I thought I'd change it up.
1:27.0	It's Andrew Sidel and I are hosting and Andrew Torres is a guest.
1:32.0	We'll do that next time for the bar exam question, I think for sure.
1:35.0	I will select the question.
1:38.0	It will be an essay.
1:40.0	Pick like secured transactions.
1:44.0	The audience has to sit there while I construct an entire essay answer to a question.
1:49.0	I don't know. I'm not sure if that'll take up. How are you doing, Andrew Torres?
1:53.0	I am great. I don't mind being a guest on what is half of my own show.
1:58.0	When I have yielded the co-host chair to Andrew Sidel and it's always a pleasure to have another Andrew on the show.
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