This is Recode Media with Peter Kafka. That's me. I am speaking to you right now from the Vox Media Podcast Network in Snowy, New York City. We're doing something a little bit different today. We're doing a megapod about Trump and media and the White House. If you're not interested in that stuff, this may not be the podcast for you, but I bet you will like it. We've got three different guests here, two different segments. First, we're going to talk to Jay Rosen. He's the New York University

professor who writes really smart things about the press and politics. He was our single,

most popular guest last year. We brought him back to talk about the press in the Trump era,

2017, what 2018 will look like.

That conversation runs about 45 minutes.

Then we talked to CNN's Oliver Darcy and BuzzFeed's Charlie Warzel.

These guys also specialize in the media in politics.

They specialize in the right-wing media.

We had them on last year.

They are awesome as well.

So you can listen to all of those conversations right now.

Before I formally introduced Jay Rosen, I just want to tell you if you like hearing people talk about

media technology, we've got an entire two-day event. We're going to do nothing but that. That's

code media. It's got awesome guests, people who run facebook and youtube and soundcloud

just about every company you care about um they're going to meet us at the pasea hotel you can hear

much more about that february 12th and 13th if you want to come attend that live look at recode

dot net we will see you there like i said i'm here with j ros, our first ever repeat guest, return guest.

That's quite an honor.

You are also our best performing guest, Jay Rosen.

Many people tell me that.

You spoke just about exactly a year ago right before the Trump inauguration.

It's kind of hard to remember what the

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