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This is Recode Media with Peter Kafka.

That's me.

I'm part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

I'm speaking to you from Box's New York headquarters, but I'm just going to be here for a minute

because we're going to go live on tape to Joe's Pub.

This is a show I did this week.

We talked to Michael Barbaro.

He's the host of the New York Times mega hit podcast, The Daily.

He's great.

The audience is really great.

They love it hearing him.

You will like hearing from him too.

So let's go to Joe's Pub right now.

Who here listens to podcasts

besides Recode Media? Who listens to the New York Times, The Daily podcast? I have good news.

We have the host of The Daily's podcast, Michael Barbaro. Come on up, Michael. Here he is.

Hello. Hi, Peter. Thank you so much. How are you? I'm nervous. I mean, Samantha B. Sorry. But we did tell you in advance. I know. Listen, we also, I got a bone to pick with you. We talked. We said, we don't want to overthink this, but you ask me, what are you going to wear? Yeah. Because I'm going to dress very casually. I said, I'm wearing a jacket, and you said, great. And now, suits a part? That's a dapper tie. No, you look great. Oh, thank you. I would like the guest to sort of dress down a little bit. But thank you for coming anyway. Thank you for coming on an evening. You normally are working often this time, right? Putting the show together?

We had to rush the whole show.

We had to change the whole news cycle just for you.

We had to rush the whole show. We had to change the whole news cycle just for you. We had to ask the president not to make any news. Thank you. We were talking about this backstage, we were talking on stage with Sam about sort of what the bar for a Trump story is. It changes. You've changed. So Twitter fight with Bob Corcorer. Corker didn't make it tonight. Broke up with Jeff Flake. Jeff Flake broke up with him. Does that make the cut? Flake made it in. What else is in tomorrow's podcast? So tomorrow's podcast is fascinating. It's a conversation about what really happened in Niger with those U.S. servicemen who were killed.

And this is kind of classic daily. What we do is we took the concept of that news conference in the Rose Garden that the president had last week, where the question from a reporter was, could we ask you to talk about what happened in Niger?

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