In the last episode, we left off with a man who called himself Vanguard,

sitting in federal custody while his empire burned to the ground.

But as jaw-dropping as some of these details were,

the truth that came out in court was so much worse.

In part two, we're taking you straight into the trial,

the testimony that stunned prosecutors and the women who broke their silence

after decades of control

in the nexium cult.

Hey guys, and welcome to the Moms and Mysteries podcast, a true crime podcast featuring myself, Mandy,

and my dear friend Melissa. Hi, Melissa. Hi, Mandy. How are you? I am doing well. I am very excited

to get into the rest of this story. There's just so much. There's so much in this episode.

And our interview with Natalie at the end is going to be a real treat, I feel like, for everybody.

Absolutely. And if you're looking for even more content, check out either Apple subscriptions,

Spotify, or patreon.com slash moms and mysteries podcast. This month, we've been covering it's Florida

comma man on HBO Max. And it's been so much fun. People seem to really be

enjoying it. So if you wanted to check that out, that's where you do it. Awesome. So last week,

we scratched the surface of the nexium cult. We talked about the hotel seminars, the personal

growth talk, and the thousands of people who walked into those rooms thinking they were signing up for a leadership workshop. And for a while, that's exactly what it did look like. But behind the scenes, Nexium was engineered to funnel people closer and closer to one man. That was Keith Reneery. And he insisted, everyone call him Vanguard. We learned how Keith teamed up with Nancy

Salzman. She was a therapist who gave his wild philosophy structure and legitimacy, and together

they built a self-help empire that turned vulnerability into currency. Then we pulled the curtain

back on Keith himself. He had these overblown child prodigy stories, a pyramid scheme

that was shut down, and an abusive relationship with a woman named Tony Natalie that showed exactly

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