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There were a ton of these stories that I had never heard of.

I consider myself pretty well versed in intelligence history.

I mean, I've got a PhD in it, so you would hope so.

And so I kind of tracked these stories and realize that I hadn't heard about them because they'd never happened.

And there were enough of them that I started getting interested.

Like how many possible programs, operations, technologies that were planned and then canceled

at the very last minute?

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We talk with Vince Houghton, curator of the International Spy Museum, who has just written a new book called

Nuking the Moon and other intelligence schemes and military plots left on the drawing board.

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Montreal and GDR Objectified. So back to today's episode. Do listen to the end as we talk Cold War espionage while Vince

answers my quickfire questions. We welcome Vince Houghton to our Cold War conversation.

Can you tell us a little bit about yourself and how you got into writing this book?

Sure. The book

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