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WSJ Opinion: Potomac Watch

Nuclear Fusion Doesn't Change the Climate Debate

WSJ Opinion: Potomac Watch

The Wall Street Journal

News, Society & Culture

4.22.8K Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2022

⏱️ 21 minutes

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The Biden administration announces that a nuclear fusion experiment has produced a net energy gain for the first time, but it could take decades to practically generate electricity this way. Does this highlight, though, a tradeoff between spending on research and funding for green subsidies, such as electric vehicle tax breaks? Plus, the European Union pushes forward with a carbon border tariff. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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From the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal, this is Potomac Watch.

0:27.0

The US government announces a breakthrough on nuclear fusion, but does this change anything about the climate debate we're having today?

0:35.0

Welcome, I'm Kyle Peterson with the Wall Street Journal.

0:38.0

We are joined today by my colleagues, columnists Alicia Finley and Kim Strassel. Welcome to you both.

0:45.0

The news on Tuesday was that US scientists had performed the first controlled nuclear fusion experiment that generated more energy out of the experiment than was put into the experiment.

0:58.0

Let's start with a clip of Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm explaining why this matters to science and maybe eventually to the climate and to energy.

1:07.0

What does this accomplishment do? Two things. First, it strengthens our national security because it opens a new realm for maintaining a safe, secure, and effective nuclear deterrent in an age where we do not have nuclear testing.

1:25.0

Ignition allows us to replicate for the first time certain conditions that are found only in the stars and the sun.

1:36.0

And the second thing it does, of course, is that this milestone moves us one significant step closer to the possibility of zero carbon abundant fusion energy powering our society.

1:54.0

Alicia, what do you make of this, the Biden administration's response to this scientific triumph and the some of the public reaction?

2:01.0

Well, I think what's garnered most of the attention, at least in terms of the media has been the potential to use fusion technology as a way to get to net zero out our emissions.

2:12.0

The way fusion works, a little different than nuclear fission, which is what powers most of our nuclear plants today is it actually combines atoms rather than splitting them.

2:22.0

Scientists have been working on this for decades and mainly actually for military and defense purposes.

2:29.0

But there is also the potential if you can kind of scale the technology and you still need more technological breakthroughs than what we achieved the other day to use this for to produce electricity.

2:42.0

The problem here right now is with the experiment that resulted in this breakthrough and produce a net gain of energy.

2:50.0

But the problem is the lasers that were used actually to produce this energy actually required nearly a hundred times more than was actually producing the reaction.

3:00.0

So the lasers we need it need to become more efficient.

3:04.0

We need to be able to scale this technology right now like the facility that was used actually would take up a whole football stadium.

3:11.0

And so we still need actually more breakthroughs technologically to get to this point where we can use it for energy.

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