NSA "Red Team" Hacker | Jeff Man (throwback episode)

The Team House

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History, Government, Society & Culture, Documentary

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🗓️ 23 April 2026

⏱️ 183 minutes

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Jeff Man is a respected Information Security expert, advisor, evangelist, and co-host on Paul’s Security Weekly and Tribe of Hackers. He is currently serving in a Consulting/Advisory role for Online Business Systems. Jeff had over 37 years of experience working in all aspects of computer, network, and information security, including cryptography, risk management, vulnerability analysis, compliance assessment, forensic analysis and penetration testing. He is a certified NSA Cryptanalyst and he previously held security research, management and product development roles with the National Security Agency, the DoD and private-sector enterprises. He was also part of the first penetration testing “red team” at NSA. For the past 20 years, Jeff has been a pen tester, security architect, consultant, QSA, and PCI SME, providing consulting and advisory services to many of the nation’s best known companies.

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0:00.0	The Team House with your host, Jack Murphy and David Park.
0:11.9	Hey everybody. Welcome to the Team House, episode 269. I'm Dave Park.
0:19.6	Co-host, Jack Murphy, and Behind the Wheels of Steel, Dee.
0:25.3	Tonight we'd love to, you know, we welcome our guest, Jeff Mann, NSA for 10 years,
0:32.7	28 years in the crypto and hacking community outside of the NSA.
0:40.2	So Jeff, thank you very much from coming out from the shadows and sharing your time with us. Hey, happy to join you here this evening.
0:48.9	Looking forward to having a fun conversation. A little stroll down memory lane is it worked.
0:55.9	Hey, I just want to hit everyone up before we get started and let you know about our Patreon.
1:01.4	You can find the link down in the description. If you guys sign up, you get access to all
1:06.4	of these episodes ad free. We really appreciate you guys supporting the channel.
1:12.9	So if you can, please go take a look at it. Again, the link is down in the description.
1:15.9	All right. And Jeff, on to you. One of the things we like to ask our guests are, is
1:22.2	what's your origin story? Like, how did you grow up? And what led you into the crypto world, the cryptography
1:30.2	world? Well, it's a great question. And ironically, on the podcast that I'm a co-host on, Paul's Security
1:40.9	Weekly, we often start with the interviews with the same kind of how'd you get
1:45.7	your start question and and for many years if somebody asked me how'd you get your start i'd say well
1:53.1	i you know i sort of cut my teeth i got started at nsa but i realized a couple years ago that that
1:57.8	doesn't really tell the story the real story is how how did I get to NSA in the first place?
2:03.7	And I'll try to be succinct.
2:06.4	I grew up in a family of pretty smart people.
2:11.2	My dad was a physicist.
2:13.8	He actually, in the 1950s, came to the Washington, D.C. area, went to work for the Naval Research Laboratory around the time that they were experimenting with hydrogen bombs, hydrogen devices. I guess the first one was not technically a bomb. He used to tell stories about how he was on a ship in the South Pacific and he got to watch
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