Former British Intelligence Officer | Julien Fisher | Ep. 408
The Team House
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🗓️ 25 April 2026
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00:00 — Start
01:00 — British intelligence, MI6, and the Official Secrets Act
05:20 — Childhood in Birmingham, family tragedy, and early hardship
11:30 — The Iranian nurse who taught Julian the power of allies
15:00 — Getting into Oxford and building social capital
20:00 — Winston Churchill’s grandson and learning influence early
27:20 — City of London finance, class, and becoming a chameleon
35:30 — Leaving finance for British intelligence
38:00 — Iraq War intelligence, David Kelly, and resigning on principle
45:30 — Moving into private intelligence and corporate security
49:00 — Tim Spicer, Sandline, Sierra Leone, and private military myths
55:00 — Head of Africa: Congo, mining clients, and ground-truth intel
59:50 — AK-47 in Kinshasa: using cover to survive
01:28:45 — Somalia, a mortar attack, and surviving by minutes
01:46:15 — How Think Like a Spy turns tradecraft into leadership lessons
01:51:40 — Final thoughts, book info, and where to find Julien
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| 0:00.0 | Hey folks, I want to tell all of our listeners tonight about the spies, lies, and nukes conference that's coming up pretty soon here. |
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| 0:12.4 | She is a former CIA operations officer, did undercover work all over the world. |
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| 1:13.3 | And I also tell you folks, I was recently at an event where Valerie Plame spoke, |
| 1:18.5 | specifically about nuclear proliferation and anti-proliferation treaties. |
| 1:23.4 | She's a great speaker, puts on a great event, and I think everyone will really enjoy this. |
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| 1:39.2 | Hey, everyone. |
| 1:40.4 | This is episode 408 of the Team House. |
| 1:43.1 | I'm Jack Murphy here with today's guest julian fisher he is a |
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