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zero carbon generation at edf energy.com slash helping Britain. Hi I'm Helen and I'm Stephen and this is the not an emergency

podcast but still a new statesman podcast it still feels a bit like an emergency

though Stephen yeah I mean I think it raises an interesting philosophical question.

If we're having a podcast in our usual slot, but we would be having an emergency one if it wasn't our usual slot,

is it an emergency or a regular podcast?

It's a metaphysical question in many ways.

It is a question also that reminds me of my mood right now and brought to you by Toby from the

West Wing. There's literally no one in the world that I don't hate right now.

I've been rewatching the West Wing because what I like to do is watch people run a functional

government and I can only get that from the West Wing at the moment and yeah I'm feeling a lot more Toby than I am Josh at the moment.

Well we will still be feeling the firm grip of Theresa May's government who I suspect will be highly functional.

Yeah, well yeah I think who I suspect will be highly functional.

Yeah, well, yeah, I think so, because from everything that I've heard about her,

she is, you know, pays a lot of attention to detail,

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