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Okay Stephen I'm going to put something to you which is I I guess a problem when you work on

a politics and current affairs magazine but it is is it just me? I'm getting a bit

Clark, is it just me? Or is politics at the moment really unbearable? Or British

politics really unbearably painful? Yeah, I mean so I think it's partly because the two main parties are having, I would use the word

psychodrama, but I think that implies a level of drama is not really present.

Effectively the action is within the two main parties and it's not really against the two,

so it's not exactly the stuff that political intrigue is made of. On the one hand you have the

Conservatives kind of row than isn't over the European referendum.

You have Cameron who is well known, you know, has a kind of credibility among the public at large and then you have a group of

outers who either people haven't heard of or they've heard of them and they do not like them at all.

They wish they hadn't heard of them.

Yeah. No I think actually to be fair I do think the

actors have a reasonable complaint which is that I know this always happens that

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