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NPT Enforcement and the Golden Dome Defense Concept GUEST NAME: Henry Sokolski Henry Sokolski, executive director of the Non-proliferation Policy Education Center, debates whether the US should abandon the 1970 Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), citing fore

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🗓️ 11 October 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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NPT Enforcement and the Golden Dome Defense Concept

GUEST NAME: Henry Sokolski
Henry Sokolski, executive director of the Non-proliferation Policy Education Center, debates whether the US should abandon the 1970 Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), citing foreign criticism and industry constraints. He argues the US should stay to enforce the NPT by clarifying red lines, justifying the bombing of nuclear facilities. Sokolski also discusses the proposed Golden Dome defense system, intended to protect the Western Hemisphere against missiles and drones. The viability of the system, particularly regarding Low Earth Orbit defenses, remains unclear and requires greater Congressional buy-in.


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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World.

0:08.5

Here's John Batchelor.

0:11.8

This is CBSI on the world.

0:14.0

I'm John Batchel.

0:15.0

I welcome colleague Henry Sikolsky,

0:17.5

the executive director of the Non-Proliferation Policy Education Center, publishing

0:22.2

a national interest in these last days, the Non-Proliferation Treaty, a document that has been

0:29.0

in place, I believe, since 1970. It covers a range of possible disasters. However, Henry, a very good evening to you. The headline tells the

0:40.8

controversial possibility, should the U.S. walk away from the NPT? You have talked over these last

0:47.7

months often of the possibility that Iran will walk away from the NPT, Hasn't not as of yet, but there are friction

0:56.1

points coming. For example, right now, what I know is that Iran is not complied with the demand

1:01.9

by the UN and the IEA to locate the FISA material that may or may not have been destroyed or

1:08.6

buried in the B2 raid of last June.

1:12.5

However, the U.S. walking away from the NPT, what are the advantages,

1:17.7

what are the disadvantages given that this would be a shocking headline on the first day?

1:23.1

Good evening to you.

1:24.9

Good evening.

1:25.7

Great to be on your show, as always.

1:31.0

The United States does nothing but support the MBT in public, and this administration has officials on record,

1:38.7

including the Secretary of State recently saying that we need to support the Nuclear and

1:45.0

amplification treaty, and we will.

1:48.6

However, in private, I have talked with officials several who have tried to question me as to what are the advantages of continuing to support the

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