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#NovaraFM: Afterburn

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4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2021

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

In the next decade, all politics will be climate politics. But climate politics isn’t always progressive. In the US, outright pseudoscientific denialism has been replaced by a softer, economist-led denialism: there might be a problem, but we just can’t afford to do anything serious about it. And there are darker possibilities lurking in the shadows. […]

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0:00.0

There is a line I've been thinking about every time I think about the climate crisis

0:08.3

over the past few months and it's not, from anything serious, it's that line from Titanic

0:13.6

where they realise there are two few lifeboats and one character explains, but half the people

0:18.2

on this boat are going to die, and the response is, yes, but not the better half.

0:24.9

First thing to know about FM here on Resonance 104.4 FM, London's finest radio station,

0:31.1

I am James Butler, not the better half, hard not to think that's climate politics for our

0:37.3

time, isn't it? There aren't enough lifeboats so screw anyone who can't make it to them.

0:43.5

How did we end up thinking like this? Is that really how it's going to be some brutal

0:48.6

zero-sum game in a climate dystopia fighting desperately for the little that's left?

0:54.7

Does it have to be that way?

0:56.3

Well, you're not going to be surprised that the answer is no, even if at times that seems

1:00.6

hard to escape. If you're politically involved, of course, it will have been hard to have missed

1:04.9

the conversation and campaign over the last couple of years for a green, new deal. In

1:10.8

fact, it's become such a slogan that it's sometimes hard to remember what it involves

1:14.9

and it sometimes seems to encompass just about everything in a sense. That's not wrong.

1:19.9

It is, after all, an attempt to add a response to the total nature of the ecological crisis,

1:25.0

one that links it not to some abstract sense of the environment, something that's out there

1:29.5

to be saved, but that links it to the pressures and concerns of human social life, almost

1:35.8

every aspect of which is touched by this crisis and it's deep into that story about how

1:41.8

things got broke and how it might fix them that we're getting today.

1:46.3

My name is Kate Airena. So I have been full-time reporting now for about four years and got

1:54.9

into this world of climate stuff in general as a student actress. In college, I work on something

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