Google it. I'm not here to teach you. Stay in your lane but use your voice to speak up

for others. Don't do a microaggression and definitely don't do a macroaggression. Check

your privilege. Or better yet, get rid of it entirely. Or better yet again, why not

give it to me. Don't send to yourself, but also think of nothing but who you are, what

you're doing and your impact on those around you. There has been a renewed consciousness

of race and racist discrimination in the wake of George Floyd's murder. And the waves

of Black Lives Matter which both followed and preceded it. And the social, the cultural

and interpersonal impacts of this anti-racist renaissance have extended into nearly every

single facet of our public lives from frantic moral panics around the safety of statues to

the apportioning of budgets to cities, local police departments. And both on social media

and establishment media, the question is frequently asked, what can white people do next?

So far, most of the answers have been inadequate. There's been a particularly reductive kind

of identity politics, which would be familiar to you if like me, you spend most of your days

rotting your brain on the internet. And in this particularly reductive kind of identity

politics, the boundaries of flexible and historically contingent social categories like race and

like class and like gender are brutally policed. And this has generated a confusing and

often nebulous set of social prescriptions for how white people ought to conduct themselves

in the world. But what does it even mean to check your privilege? Is it possible to transfer

it to someone else? And is it possible to talk about whiteness, white people, white supremacy

without ultimately strengthening the categories of race which produce racism in the first place?

Hello, thank goodness for my guest Emma Zabbery and author, broadcaster and teaching fellow

who's Burke, what white people can do next if you see what I did there with the introduction

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