Hello I'm Jans Valfakis I'm at Novara Media and I have a message for you.

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without being a populist anti-establishment

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F. F. F. F. F. F. F. Hello and today I'm your host Juliet Jakes and today I'm joined by my friend and comrade Tom Williams,

hosts of Navarro's Pro Revolution soccer podcast and co-organizer of Acid Football, which some of you may know from the World Transformed Festival, which Tom has helped to organize.

That should give you a clue as to the subject of today's conversation.

Hi Tom, how you doing?

Hi Julia, I'm good. Are you all right?

I am not bad, although I've spent a lot of time watching Norwich City lately and I really wish I hadn't.

Let's not talk about them. Let's talk about acid football. Do you want to just quickly explain

what the concept behind acid football was and what it meant to be involved with it?

Yeah so it was I think it came about as a as a combination of you and me and Kia

Milburn who was was my co-host for the Pro Revolution soccer

podcast that we did for Navarro around the World Cup.

And I think the initial sort of animus for it was this kind of Mark Fisher consciousness raising stuff and it was rooted in Fisher's idea of acid communism.

And it ended up being kind of like what people were doing in the

at the beginning of the women's movement which was you know women sitting around and

talking about their experiences and kind of

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