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Novara FM: Against Assisted Dying w/ Ellen Clifford

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Philosophy, News, Politics, Society & Culture

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2025

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

Your death should be your own, as much as possible. That’s one of the principles behind the Assisted Dying Bill. It lets adults with less than 6 months to live end their lives. But disability campaigners fear that people who don’t want to die might be pressured to let themselves be killed. Ellen Clifford is […]

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0:00.0

The case for assisted dying is simple.

0:17.2

To some, it feels obvious.

0:19.8

It's your life and it should be, as much as it ever can be, your death.

0:26.9

And lots of people go through unbelievable forms of suffering in the final stages of their

0:31.7

lives.

0:33.7

Those are the people for whom the much-discussed terminally ill adults, bracket, end-of-life bill, is designed.

0:40.3

But the realities on the ground are far more complex than this principled picture suggests.

0:47.3

Conditions for disabled people in the UK have come under a sustained assault

0:52.3

for almost a decade and a half under the Tory government

0:56.0

and now could worsen still under labour.

1:00.0

That's led disability rights organisations to express their strong opposition to the bill.

1:06.0

They worry that if the bill is passed, disabled people will have to spend their lives fighting off pressure

1:12.9

to let themselves be killed. I spoke to Ellen Clifford, a disability activist and author of the book

1:21.2

The War on Disabled People. She is strongly against the current bill. If like me, your sympathies are instinctually in favour of a right to die as and when you choose,

1:36.3

then this is an urgent conversation to have.

1:39.3

Even if the principles of assisted dying seem clear, we must listen to those who feel themselves with clear

1:46.9

justification to be at risk of being killed by a state that has so often shown its callous

1:53.3

disregard for their lives and to do so ostensibly with their own permission. This episode was

1:59.3

recorded in January and we're releasing it now,

2:02.7

while it's been going through the parliamentary committee stage, because parts of the bill have

2:07.2

now changed. At the time of recording, last month, the plan, as set out in the bill, was to have

2:14.0

each case of assisted dying signed off by a high court judge.

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