Welcome to another special Navarra Media live stream.

Yesterday, we discussed whether reform could become the largest party at the next general election.

And today we're discussing whether Labor are doomed.

Now, that could be taken in a couple of ways, I suppose.

Firstly, are they set to lose the next general election in 2029?

And two, has politics and society changed so fundamentally that the Labour Party in its

current form is just finished.

Two, discuss that question.

You know who I'm joined by.

I'm joined by Ash Sarkar and Aaron Bustani.

How are you both doing?

I'm very well.

Aaron was coming out with some controversial opinions before we even went live, he said that if David Beckham wasn't so good looking,

he'd be more highly rated as a footballer.

So in a way, he had pretty disadvantage rather than pretty privilege, if I understand you.

That's correct.

I think he deserved that Ballandah in 1999.

I think he deserved it.

We're talking about Labour, whatever.

I don't think pretty dis-privilege exists.

I don't think anyone could be too pretty.

You can't be too rich or too pretty.

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