Welcome back to a special edition of a combined law talk and

libertarian podcast coming at you from the Hoover Institution.

I'm your Law Talk guest host and Libertarian regular host, Tom Church, filling in for Troy Senec.

I took over Troy's hosting of Libertarian a few years ago. Now I'm doing this with

law talk for today. John and Richard, I think pretty soon I will go off and write my own

biography of an obscure president whom I really enjoy.

That's great.

Well, I'm so excited to attend the combined law school of Epstein and you.

I usually, of course, talk to the Epstein part that's Richard Epstein the

Libertarian

Richards the Peter and Kirsten Bedford senior fellow here at the Hoover

Institution he's a Lawrence A. Tish professor of law NYU, and is a senior lecturer at the University of Chicago.

And John, I'm so excited to talk to you as well.

John is, of course, the visiting fellow here at the Hoover Institution.

He's the Emanuel Heller Professor of Law at the University of

California Berkeley and he's a former deputy assistant attorney general in

the Bush administration and John I won't date you all say it's the W Bush

administration. Now it's the W Bush administration.

Now, it's great to be here and I want to, for the listeners, I am rolling up the Jolly Roger

Pirate Flag up the Flag Pole now that Law Tuck has successfully expanded its pirate empire and taken over another

podcast and Tom we are reserving the biography on Zachary Taylor for you to write.

Oh, I was, you know, I was going to go Miller to Fillmore, but I can do Taylor.

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