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The Counsel

Note from Elie 9/12: Trump’s Emergency Summer Becomes Fallback Fall

The Counsel

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Politics

4.7861 Ratings

🗓️ 12 September 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Elie Honig is a former Assistant U.S. Attorney and co-chief of the organized crime unit at the Southern District of New York, where he prosecuted more than 100 mobsters, including members of La Cosa Nostra, and the Gambino and Genovese crime families. He went on to serve as Director of the Department of Law and Public Safety at New Jersey Division of Criminal Justice. He is currently Special Counsel at Lowenstein Sandler and a CNN legal analyst.  For a transcript of Elie’s note and the full archive of contributor notes, head to CAFE.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:38.6

Hey everyone, Ellie here, wishing you a happy Friday.

0:41.6

Well, my book is out this week.

0:44.0

Finally, it's called When You Come at the King, Inside DOJ's Pursuit of the President,

0:48.8

from Nixon to Trump.

0:50.3

I really can't wait for you all to see this one.

0:52.3

I will tell you, this was so much fun

0:54.3

to write this book. I know writing a book, as you can imagine, is an arduous task, but this one

0:59.3

just felt fun and easy, largely because I talked to so many people who are on the insides

1:05.2

of these cases. They're all on the record in this book. And if you're interested in what it was like to really be living these cases, you will love

1:13.4

this.

1:13.6

If you want to know what was it like in the Watergate Prosecutor's Office, the Sunday morning

1:18.2

after the Saturday Night Massacre, I have that in the book.

1:22.3

I talked to several people who were there who got words of wisdom from Archibald Cox

1:26.1

before they carried on with their

1:27.7

investigation. If you want to know what it was like to sit at the deposition table in the White House

1:32.9

when Ken Starr and his lawyers were grilling Bill Clinton, I have both sides of that for you in the

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