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The Counsel

Note from Elie 9/05: Trump Can’t Fire the Fed at Will — But He Probably Can Fire Lisa Cook

The Counsel

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Politics

4.7861 Ratings

🗓️ 5 September 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

Elie Honig is a former Assistant U.S. Attorney and co-chief of the organized crime unit at the Southern District of New York, where he prosecuted more than 100 mobsters, including members of La Cosa Nostra, and the Gambino and Genovese crime families. He went on to serve as Director of the Department of Law and Public Safety at New Jersey Division of Criminal Justice. He is currently Special Counsel at Lowenstein Sandler and a CNN legal analyst. For a transcript of Elie’s note and the full archive of contributor notes, head to CAFE.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:38.6

Hey, everyone, Ellie here, wishing you a happy Friday.

0:41.7

Well, first of all, welcome back.

0:43.5

We didn't go anywhere.

0:44.3

We did a podcast last week, but it feels like this is the first week back.

0:48.8

The summer is over.

0:49.7

Kids are back to school.

0:50.7

Congress is back in session.

0:52.6

And it was not a great week for Donald Trump. He took a

0:55.7

series of court losses. He lost on his use of the Alien Enemies Act. The Fifth Circuit found that

1:02.8

he was using it unconstitutionally, that we did not have an invasion or a predatory incursion,

1:08.3

as we've discussed earlier in this podcast.

1:11.5

Trump took a loss on the tariff issue.

1:13.5

The Federal Circuit Court of Appeals said that he did not have the emergency power to pass

1:19.0

his tariffs.

1:19.8

That'll probably head to the Supreme Court next.

1:22.2

And he took a loss of sorts on the National Guard in California.

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