Support for this show comes from OnePassword. If you're an IT or security pro, managing devices,

identities, and applications can feel overwhelming and risky. Trellica by OnePassword helps

conquer SaaS sprawl and Shadow IT by discovering every app your team uses, managed or not.

Take the first step to better security for your team.

Learn more at onepassword.com slash podcast offer.

That's onepassword.com slash podcast offer, all lowercase.

Hey, everyone, Ellie here, wishing you a happy Friday.

Before we get to this week's piece, I just wanted to note, there was a day this week

when I got texts from a handful of different friends, all of whom were very worried about

the same story.

You may have seen this, that a person who brought a case

challenging the legality of same-sex marriage, which of course the Supreme Court recognized

the decade ago, a person is now seeking to challenge that in the Supreme Court and seeking

to convince the Supreme Court to reverse Obergefell, which is the case granting protections for same-sex marriage. There's some real concern out there that the Supreme Court to reverse Obergafel, which is the case granting protections for same-sex marriage.

There's some real concern out there that the Supreme Court might take this case and might actually

reverse itself. What I told all these friends is it's very unlikely the Supreme Court takes the

case. It's not 0%. I'm never going to vouch it for them, zero or 100% to do

anything, but I think it's very likely. Clarence Thomas has made clear he would like to overturn

Obergefell, but you need four to take a case. You need five to reverse. I just don't see it there.

Obviously, the three liberals would oppose this. Chief Justice Roberts would want no part of this

of reversing something that's so new and so dramatic. I don't think Barrett or Kavanaugh would be

in with it either. I don't think Gorsuch would be in with it. So I don't think it's likely,

...