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The Counsel

Note from Elie 8/1: Trump Is Only Pretending to Release More Epstein Material

The Counsel

Some Spider, Inc.

Politics, News

4.6848 Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

Elie Honig is a former Assistant U.S. Attorney and co-chief of the organized crime unit at the Southern District of New York, where he prosecuted more than 100 mobsters, including members of La Cosa Nostra, and the Gambino and Genovese crime families. He went on to serve as Director of the Department of Law and Public Safety at New Jersey Division of Criminal Justice. He is currently Special Counsel at Lowenstein Sandler and a CNN legal analyst. For a transcript of Elie’s note and the full archive of contributor notes, head to CAFE.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Imagine for a moment that we have the ability to rewind time.

0:04.0

Back through the age of the dinosaurs, all the way back to around 500 million years ago,

0:11.0

when our ancestors' ancestors' ancestors were crawling around in the muck along with other animals.

0:18.0

If we started over from that point, would we end up with the same world that we have today?

0:26.2

This week on Unexplanable, some scientists are trying to answer that question.

0:31.4

So listen, wherever you get your podcasts.

0:35.8

Hey everyone, Ellie here, wishing you a happy Friday. Well, here we are. We are into August,

0:41.9

and the Jeffrey Epstein story has dominated all of July. I did not think it was going to last this

0:49.3

long. I remember it first popped up while I was on vacation. I thought, it'll be gone by the time I'm

0:53.7

back. And no. And the time I'm back.

1:00.7

And no. And the administration really has itself to blame for this. You know, they keep making it worse and worse on themselves by making contradictory statements, contradictory promises

1:05.3

to the public. They're all over the map. You know, I had Alyssa Farah Griffin on with me this week when I was guest

1:11.9

hosting on Sirius XM. Most of you probably know Alyssa. She used to be a comms director, communications

1:17.8

director in the Trump White House, but very publicly broke with Trump on January 6th and has since

1:23.0

become a pretty pointed Trump critic. She's also co-hosted The View. She really knows her stuff.

1:28.8

And she made a really good point to me. She said, you know, the White House's position from the

1:33.5

start should have just been, we don't deal with this stuff. This is DOJ. But of course,

1:38.9

the White House and DOJ have essentially all but merged at this point. And I added to that,

1:43.5

and I've written about this in the past, we've talked about it on this podcast. DoJ, in turn, should have taken the position that we don't turn this stuff over. This is grand jury materials. This is our internal files. If someone subpoenas it, fine, we'll deal with the subpoena. Maybe we'll agree. Maybe we'll fight it. But the standard policy has long been, we don't go down this path.

2:03.0

We don't crack open our closed files.

2:05.3

People would have hated it.

2:06.5

There would have been a couple days of blowback and Pam Bondi, what she hiding?

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