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The Counsel

Note From Elie 08/08: Will the U.S. Supreme Court Actually Save Ghislaine Maxwell?

The Counsel

Some Spider, Inc.

Politics, News

4.6848 Ratings

🗓️ 8 August 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

Elie Honig is a former Assistant U.S. Attorney and co-chief of the organized crime unit at the Southern District of New York, where he prosecuted more than 100 mobsters, including members of La Cosa Nostra, and the Gambino and Genovese crime families. He went on to serve as Director of the Department of Law and Public Safety at New Jersey Division of Criminal Justice. He is currently Special Counsel at Lowenstein Sandler and a CNN legal analyst. For a transcript of Elie’s note and the full archive of contributor notes, head to CAFE.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:40.7

Hey, everyone, Ellie here, wishing you a happy Friday.

0:47.3

Well, as the Jeffrey Epstein scandal continues to develop, to mushroom, to devolve,

0:52.5

the Trump administration has continued to try to distract and deflect.

0:56.9

And their main effort to do that this week is the opening of a grand jury investigation. I can't even really describe it, having something to do with the Obama

1:02.5

administration, the 2016 election, and Russian intelligence or intelligence in the United

1:08.5

States about Russian efforts to influence the election. The tell here is ask anyone who intelligence in the United States about Russian efforts to influence the election.

1:12.2

The tell here is ask anyone who believes in this theory or who's cheering this on to actually

1:17.4

explain it and actually explain what the crime is.

1:21.0

I had a moment like this on CNN.

1:22.9

There was somebody who was just sort of shilling for the administration.

1:25.6

I said, what's the crime?

1:26.4

And she listed a bunch of things that were not crimes. And certainly we're not within the five-year statute of limitations. This is such tired, well-trod ground. This is the same thing that John Durham looked at and concluded, by the way, that an investigation should have been opened. He didn't think it should have gone as far as it did. But he concluded it should have been opened in an intel investigation. Durham got nowhere. He whiffed. That's a chapter in

1:48.2

my book about what a failure John Durham's investigation is. The Senate Intelligence Committee

1:53.5

under Republican control of then-Senator Marco Rubio concluded the same thing. DoJ itself,

1:59.8

the Inspector General Mueller,

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