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The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

NOT for Sale | Frankly #24

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

Nate Hagens

Natural Sciences, Science, Earth Sciences

4.8555 Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2023

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Recorded January 30, 2023

 

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This week, Nate reflects on one of the biggest questions humanity is facing - what is and is NOT for sale? The Biden Administration approval of a 20 year ban on mining near the Boundary Waters and the regional 'Not for Sale' movement to prevent selling water from Lake Superior to the West are evidence that perhaps we can see nature's value beyond monetary gain.  What have we already "sold" to feed an insatiable appetite for more energy and more materials? And where will we draw the line between what humanity is willing to "sell" and what we decide is sacred and non-negotiable?  Have we thought about what might be 'for sale' in our own lives in the future - and what will not be? 

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0:00.0

Greetings. I'm off to the airport, but wanted to reflect on something that's been on my mind for a bit and was accentuated with a news announcement in the last week.

0:12.0

Last summer I was biking and hiking in northern Wisconsin and I saw these signs that had a beautiful blue silhouette of Lake Superior and then some words

0:25.9

that said not for sale.

0:27.4

And I thought they were like some real estate agent that was doing the don't think of an

0:33.7

elephant.

0:34.7

Like this house is not for sale meaning that it is but I saw

0:38.7

hundreds of them in biking around so I got back to my Airbnb and I looked it up

0:45.0

and what this is about is local people around the shores of Lake Superior are becoming

0:53.2

active to avert and avoid people in the Southwest building

1:00.3

pipelines to transport the water from Lake Superior to areas that need water, not for sale.

1:08.0

And they're drawing a line in the sand.

1:09.7

For many of you that live in Minnesota, especially, you might have seen last week the

1:15.0

Biden administration announced a 20-year moratorium on the metals and mining in the Boundary

1:23.5

Waters canoe area.

1:26.0

There is copper and nickel there and there's been this long fight

1:29.8

between environmentalists and people in industry to avoid the environmental pollution from

1:36.9

drilling in the Aquatico and Boundary Waters area. You know, this all brings up this issue of what is for sale in our culture.

1:51.6

Last week I talked about two scenarios where if we continue to grow, if we are able to

2:00.6

generate productivity from a combination of technology

2:05.1

and available resources, that will gradually head towards a Mordor economy. Under that scenario,

2:11.3

if it happens, we will be resource and sync and beauty constrained.

2:20.2

Under the other scenario,

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